[Ollie]

Rescued a stray beagle mix three weeks ago (well, not sure if rescue is the right word - he showed up at my house and here he stays) with a nasty case of sarcoptic mange. We began treating him with Revolution, and using a rinse of borax and diluted hyrdrogen peroxide. Dramatic improvement over the first 15 days. Now he is suddenly scratching again, and nothing is helping.

At this point, is it safe to move on to trying the Prolate dips as recommended elsewhere on the site, do I try switching over to Ivermectrin, or just try to sit tight for a few more days? He is clearly itchy and at this rate, will be scratching himself raw again.

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[oldhounddog]

Ollie,
Sorry to be so long getting back to you as I did not see your post when it came in. If you still need advice with treatment please post back and give all information you can about dog and what you have done and meds used.

Best , oldhounddog

 

[Ollie]

Ollie is a beagle mix, unknown age, vet thinks between 3-8. When he arrived we started him on two weeks of antibiotics to cure secondary skin infections, vaccinations for distemper, parvo, and rabies, initial dose of Revolution. I began washing him every 3 days with solution of diluted hydrogen peroxide and borax. Tremendous improvement in the skin over the next two weeks, hair is re-growing. At the 3 week vet visit he had gained 8 lbs, was diagnosed with yeast infections in his ears, and because he had suddenly started itching again, the vet put him on steroids for the itching, and switched to oral Invemectrin. He is not itching as badly, and while hair is regrowing in many places, there are still some very bare areas.

I suspect I need to give the current treatments more time, although I did buy some Prolate in a fit of panic over trying to cure this!!

7/31/12

8/18/12

8/26/12

 

[Mom2Beagles]

Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for helping him and giving him a home.

 

[oldhounddog]

Ollie ,

I am so glad the mange is better and thanks for posting the pics as they are a great help. BTW. Welcome to Beagles Unlimited and a Big Thank You for rescuing a Beagle in need of a home and providing great Vet care.

General info on treating Sarcopic Mange:

The Prolate is a good product but can not be used around the eyes , so , if the head or eye area are involved don't use.

Revolution ( Selamectin ) will treat the sarcopic mange when dosed initially by weight then followed by a second dose at 2 weeks and then once a month until resolved , usually in 3 to 4 months.

Ivermectin at therapeutic oral dose levels by weight is effective treating Sarcopic mange. ( more info if needed )

The important thing here is to stay with what is working for Ollie until resolved ( clear ) and then continue for 2 more weeks.

The use of antibiotic for secondary skin infection is needed in many cases and works well.

Steroids can be problematic with mange treatment because they interfere with the immune system and give advantage to the sarcopic mange mite.
I would reduce the steroid dose and then discontinue use. Benadryl dosed at 2mg for a 25 pound dog given twice daily has worked for me.

A medicated bath is a good idea with an oatmeal creme rinse to keep skin from drying out.

I would add 2 Tbs of yogurt to Ollie's food for yeast prevention and 1 regular strength fish oil capsule for skin and coat health.

Would you please give Ollie's current weight and the dose of Ivermectin given daily ?

Good nutrition will help speed recovery. I would use a kibble with no corn , soy or wheat. This is what I use: http://www.tractorsupply.com/4health-trade-chicken-rice-formula-for-adult-dogs-35-lb-bag-6009468

Helpful note: Sarcopic mange is contagious, so keep Ollie away from other pets in house. Clean or replace bedding. Clean crate if used , a mixture of 1oz Prolate to 1 gal water will kill the mange mite on surface areas and crate if needed. If you have a dog bed that can't be washed , place in large plastic bag with tie on bage end and leave in direct sun light all day and then keep dry for 5 days and it will be OK.

Please post any question that we can help you with , and , for sure keep us up to date on Ollie's progress.


Again , Thanks for making a great effort with health care needs and giving a good home to Ollie.


Best , oldhounddog

 

[Ollie]

Thanks oldhounddog!

Ollie weighs 50 lbs now, and his Ivermectrin dosage is .6 mls per day. I am continuing the Revolution at every two weeks, per the vet (good lord, I hope I am not medicating the poor dog to death!!).

I'll have to get pretty desperate before I'd try the Prolate - that stuff is so toxic I could not even keep it in the house when it arrived.

And while we kept Ollie completely quarantined for the first three weeks, he is now running with the other dogs, so I suspect we all have mange now. The vet seemed to think the other dogs were healthy enough to tolerate exposure without catching it - we'll see!

Ollie eats Science Diet Lamb and Rice (which is the only dry food I've been able to get the "big" dogs to eat (Golden Retriever and fussy Collie/shepherd mix). It does have corn gluten and wheat. I am actually going to Tractor Supply tonight (because I am there almost every other day), and will pick up a bag of the 4Health to see how the dogs feel about it.

One last question for today: Ollie is intact, and now that he has a big bounce in his step again, he has taken to marking his territory with a vengeance. He's not aggressive, but today he decided to mark the sofa. Not really a good deal here. For a host of reasons, he'll be neutered - but is there a good reason I should wait on the neutering until he gets everything else cleared up? Not sure if his immune system is compromised too badly from the manage, etc.

 

[oldhounddog]

Ollie,

>Ollie is intact, and now that he has a big bounce in his step again, he has taken to marking his territory with a vengeance. He's not aggressive, but today he decided to mark the sofa. Not really a good deal here.<
This will require crate training just as you would a new puppy and I would start right away to correct this.
Use this where he has marked:http://www.tractorsupply.com/nature...mp-odor-remover-24-oz-trigger-sprayer-2436922


>For a host of reasons, he'll be neutered - but is there a good reason I should wait on the neutering until he gets everything else cleared up? Not sure if his immune system is compromised too badly from the manage, etc.<
On the Immune system question , I would ask your Vet if there is a reason to wait... Also , ask your Vet if there is any risk with anesthesia while on heavy dose Ivermectin protocol. In my opinion the neuter of a mature male dog will take the edge off of his drive , but , I'm not sure how much it will affect marking. To my way of thinking , it will be a training issue more than anything to redirect marking to outside potty areas.

I would not look for any dramatic change in Ollie after the neuter. From a health standpoint , the neuter is a good move and will tend to keep him at home more easily.


Good Luck and keep us posted..

oldhounddog

 

[Jana Banana]

have two Shih Tzu dogs but figure the treatment should be the same. I was also wondering about the dip/spray. Is it harmful if left on and they lick? I really want to get started treating them but need to make sure nothing will harm them before I will begin. Any help will be appreciated. I am questioning the use of Prolate.

 

[oldhounddog]

have two Shih Tzu dogs but figure the treatment should be the same. I was also wondering about the dip/spray. Is it harmful if left on and they lick? I really want to get started treating them but need to make sure nothing will harm them before I will begin. Any help will be appreciated. I am questioning the use of Prolate.

Hi Jana Banana ,
Please give more information on each dog , also , how long dog has had problem.

Age/weight of each dog?

Do you have a Vet diagnosis?

Are shots UTD?

What meds or supplements are dog given on regular basis?

Could you post a pic?

Best , oldhounddog

 

[oldhounddog]

Forgot to mention that this new area does have ticks and I have found and removed them from my dogs during this time frame .

Jana Banana ,

Ticks are a big problem this year in my area. Are you using any flea and tick control product on your dogs?

When you have time please send info on dogs as per post #9 and I will try to help you any way I can...


Best , oldhounddog